There is currently a big push in the surf industry to send surfboard manufacturing overseas to communist China. I think we will stay local and keep making sweet sliders for the peeps.
Shape by Malcolm Campbell. Wood siderunners by 101Fin Co. Built at Moonlight Glassing by surfers.
reverbMarch 26, 2007
…hmm JP a bit too much
but yes surfboard made by surfers for surfers
the F—ng problem with the surfindustry is based on the Motherf..rs owners of the “surf wear”
they have all the money, but neither investiment in surfboards (material, design, etc)
wetsuits also, now that most are made in Asia..well, there no possibilities to knock knock the doors to try to order (yes I know there re some small brands around the world to do somewhat custom swetsuits) a custom suit or fix some bad design
man, the trunks designer are in NY! for G sake
those expensive Bermudas that dont work for surfing
is like more apparel (!!??¿¿) (if you like hip hop or other crap)
AnonymousMarch 26, 2007
china… there are good an bad things, no doubt.
but why don`t you post a pic showing US marines killing innocent civilians for the past 50 years all around the globe? “keep it local” .. suddenly becomes a whole different meaning.
JPMarch 26, 2007
Two wrongs don’t make a right “anonymous”.
JPMarch 26, 2007
Maybe I should explain the photo behind the China link. That is not the Chinese military about to execute that women. That is Chinese police after rounding up a group of protesters. That photo was smuggled out of the country. I first saw it on C-SPAN when flipping channels one weekend afternoon. That women and many others were murdered simply because they were politically dissidents protesting a land grab by the Chinese government. Keep that in mind next time Surfrider has a Save Trestles rally.
The surf industry is jumping up and down over China’s cheap labor but they are in denial about the hypocrisy of partnering with a communist country.
After 9/11 people were outraged at photos of the Taliban in Afghanistan executing women for petty crimes. Where is the outrage when China does it?
And no, the US military killing Iraqi civilians does not justify setting up shop in China. That is dodgy logic.
JBMarch 26, 2007
Vote with your wallet! If you like something that a company (country) is doing buy their products. If not don’t and inform your friends as to why you are not supporting those companies (countries). Information is key.
pointsurfbajaMarch 26, 2007
JB, amen brother, you got it right! The Corporations have taken over the countries and your TVs are their brainwashing machines. The networks and all the media, apart from the people like JP that enjoy the current state of Neutrality, are brainwashing more and more consumers to buy the right guy,s stuff. What we don’t see here yet are the corporations hit men putting guns to our kids heads here in the U.S. Just people with big smiles saying how this new company with new technology is making new surfboards in a new factory in China. Telling us how the new factory workers are earning relatively good new wages and are able to buy new rice cookers. OOOhhhh, it feels good to be a part of Global Exploitation. All sandwiched between the horrors they use to scare us into believing that they are our salvation. The trillion dollar corporations to the rescue. OOOoooppss, I just threw up in my mouth a little.
AnonymousMarch 26, 2007
Awesome board…cant wait until it arrives in Pennsylvania! The caption is right on….It states all of the reasons why I actually ordered this in the first place….I sold my Surftech Woody Velzy and ordered this in its place. Glad it is sparking conversation……..Thanks again!
NunoMarch 26, 2007
If one day I can’t afford a handcrafeted custom board anymore, I will start body surfing.
GGBMarch 26, 2007
just threw up in his mouth but
a poor factory worker in china ate better today for the job they have because US factories are there…ask that worker how they feel about ‘evil corporations’.
warm jetMarch 26, 2007
reeling in a bit, I gots a Question about da runners.
What are the options on colored glass runners?
Like the opaQue red from the days of old with the white Bing Lam?
As well as an Opau colored center to match?
Love that white LV on the Campbell site in the flowers!
vascoMarch 26, 2007
Next time don´t buy a wetsuit, all are made in china…
and yes make a choice with your wallet…
Why are you so affraid of boards being made in china…that´s rubbish…do you buy them? i don´t…
vascoMarch 26, 2007
oh and nice fins the 101´s, but that TA is rubish made in ASIA and i´m guessing it´s a rtm fin made in china…that´s weird all that talk about china pop outs and you put a pop out fin along something unique and beautifully hand crafted by Marlin Bacon…
robMarch 26, 2007
me “anonymous”. we run one of the last snowboard binding factories in europe. we have a problem with china products, too. however, china is already getting more and more expensive. they need the energy and products to feed their own… just wait. investments and factories will return to the US and europe…
thanks for: “two wrongs don`t make a right”.
just too sad.
JpMarch 26, 2007
The True Ames center fin in the photo is a USA made fin before Chuck Ames started outsourcing. It’s at least 10 years old. It’s my personal fin I keep around the shop. It’s appeared in many Surfy Surfy Bonzer post.
One point of this post is that Moonlight Glassing will NOT be moving operations to communist China. We are not joining the “race to the bottom.”
Re: the Chinese workers, I’m glad they have jobs and I’m glad China has an emerging middle class. But the freedom to buy stuff should not be confused with freedom expression and freedom of religion. In China the thought police throw bloggers like me in jail. I try not to support that Orwellian bullshit. Check the China, Human Rights Watch link provided on the right column of this blog.
Sorry today’s post got political. Either way, I think this board is a work of art. Stoked!
robrMarch 26, 2007
ggb, that’s the good thing about the global economy. I agree with the statement when applied toward countries trying to provide a better life for it’s citizens. I don’t have a problem with web development (my profession) going to India for this reason.
China however, is actively violating the basic human rights of its citizens. The undeniable truth of the matter is that buying surf trunks, boards, toys or electronics made there makes you a supporter of the violation of human rights and freedom.
I supported the violation of human rights and freedom when I bought my camera, my computer etc.
dumb surferMarch 26, 2007
North Korea communist=bad
It don’t add up.
bodhisattvaMarch 27, 2007
buy amsterdam wetsuits, made in japan
reverbMarch 27, 2007
…strictly in surfboards making talking
the problem is in my opinion, more for the SURFERS
I mean, when you surfers dont have more a source for custom orders and only a mega factory with people that dont have a clue about surfing (that people only want a job)
what will happend if that occurs?
you cant go to surftech and cobra factories and knock the door to put custom orders…
the money always win
but I dont understand why there re too much money followers in a such small industry like the surfboard s one
vasco, like I said before, there re around the world several wetsuit s makers that keep local
even the neoprene is local in some Countries
jbMarch 27, 2007
The key factor is to remember that the Chinese government is fucked up, but the citizenry is another matter. Wonderful people, shitty people, etc. just like this country.
Two wrongs do not make a right, but this country we live in has put guns to innocent peoples’ heads for years as you know. Commerce/$ is at the heart of this and always has been. Keep in mind that our government loves the current conditions in communist China. Cheap labor is all we care about in that country.
As far as your post being political, I think it is a good way to break it up JP. The picture was indeed harsh, but that is a very real situation and we need to be shaken out of our comfy routine sometimes. Let’s just be sure we do not villify the Chinese people as a whole. We have done that with so many other countries. To be sure, I don’t think that is your perspective, JP.
LESiderMarch 27, 2007
Jp that is an amazing board and nomatter how they try they will never get a board like that out of China, to the normal person they might look the same but to a surfer it wont be close.
Now as for the China situation, the problem is coming to our own shores because of their political and econimic nature the Chinese government has a one trillion dollar surplus and they have their eyes on American companies, soon you wont even know your buying Chinese.
FREERIDEMarch 27, 2007
In China each town has a specialty. If you want a black and white neck tie you go to one specific town. Ok I get it, if I want a surfboard that looks like everyone else and surfs like shit I need to go to that town. Go get um China!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Lets get 60 minutes involved that will solve everything. Oh the Bing fins are cool Warm Jet.
gasserMarch 27, 2007
All the old school racist redneck shapers are going to China because those chinks work real cheap.
CoqueMarch 27, 2007
For me the difference between the chinese government and USA’s government is that the chinese gov plays hypocrisy outside their country while killing innocents inside China while the USA gov plays hypocrisy inside their country while killing inocents outside just for the money…
Nice board, but i think soon it’ll have an asian made fin, an asian made leash and an asian made wetsuit over it’s US skin.
Again: nice board.
AnonymousMarch 27, 2007
China imprisons bloggers like JP
mlMarch 27, 2007
would you guys mind shutting the hell up, Im trying to check out this board!
NunoMarch 27, 2007
When the emerging Chinese middle class start to be more demanding for they’re rights… the monkey businesses will end there, the opportunists will move somewhere else.
The only thing I complain in china products is the low handcraft and materials quality, as far as I know most people work without conditions, overtime and without formation the materials they use are crap.
Ask your selves why is cheaper and why other countries cant compete with?
AnonymousMarch 27, 2007
JP gave me a wave once at Swamis.
AnonymousMarch 29, 2007
um, not all wetsuits and fins are made in china. maybe a john cherry fin is going on this board and a hotline wetsuit? no leash